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  • How to get an AFM/ΑΦΜ (tax number) in Greece
    to start a business in Greece 9 Athens Greece Cost of living Best of An American in Athens 1 Four songs in Greek that make me cry 2 Why don t you speak Greek fluently 3 Thanks to Greece I ve been reunified with myself 4 More windows on Greek TV than my house 5 Cockroaches and courthouses leases and landlords in Athens 6 Girl of the Greek green clover 7 The nightbird For Americans non EU citizens 1 How Americans non EU citizens can get a permit to live and work in Greece 2 Common jobs for English speaking foreigners in Greece 3 Jobs at the American Embassy in Greece 4 Overstaying a visa in Greece 5 Residence work permit for American non EU family members of Greek EU citizens 6 FAQ Greek work and or residence permits 7 Value of a university degree in Greece For Greek citizens 1 Greek citizenship by claim of Greek origin descent or ancestry 2 American Greek dual citizenship 3 Greek national ID or tautotita 4 How to get a Greek passport 5 Getting married in Greece for residents 6 Mandatory Greek military service 7 Greece enters the U S waiver program Helpful links for U S citizens American Embassies Consulates Worldwide Collect U S retirement benefits abroad IRS Tax info for American citizens abroad Social Security Admin Americans abroad U S Consulate in Thessaloniki U S Dept of State Americans abroad U S Embassy in Athens U S Govt Guide for citizens abroad Where to get birth marriage divorce death records in USA Jobs Homes Auto Ads in Greece American Embassy in Athens Jobs ASEP Public sector jobs Chrysi Efkairia Biggest source of classified ads in GR Diorismos Job openings scholarships news in the Greek public sector EKEP Euroguidance Centre of Greece

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  • I’m a non-EU citizen in Greece, am I allowed to travel whenever I wish?
    month since we applied for it Now the Visitor visa is expired and i am having Blue paper and i want to visit other EU countries Swiss and Italy for tourism what should i do if i dont get Residence Permit by then Kat Reply August 31st 2009 at 23 44 Please read the above post I also suggest reading the post FAQ Greek work residence permits Waiting one month for a permit is NOT a long time I and several of my friends have waited up to a year You and your company have given Greek authorities two reasons to delay and or not issue your permit 1 to enter Greece for the purpose of work and immigration you should have been issued a Schengen type D visa through the proper channels not a visitor visa 2 the law says that applicants must apply for permits within 30 days of arrival in Greece Also note that Switzerland is not an EU country It is however in Schengen 3rd wrote December 28th 2009 at 00 53 im a filipino working here in greece in almost 2 yrs i have a working permit of employment and services or project my problem is that my company is not giving me a write salary on me my salary is not in minimum wages here in greece what can i do on this even my personal passport is on them i say to the company that this is my personal property they just tell they will sent me back to my country if i insist getting it on it even do that my permit is not expire until 2011 will expire can i possible to find new employer nana wrote February 6th 2010 at 03 01 can somebody answer me i am non eu citizen i have greek residence permit sticker in my passport it s expiry date is 30 06 2010 only in greek language so can i travel to poland up to 90 days with my greek permit sticker where can i find same information on an official site thank you Kat Reply February 11th 2010 at 06 35 Answer is in the first paragraph of the article above You can find the same information in Greek on the Ministry of Citizen Protection s official website which is also listed in the above article Note Because you asked two redundant questions future ones were deleted per my policy Peter wrote February 8th 2010 at 23 22 Hi Kat I am non EU citizen and when i came to Greece i sought asylum and was given a pink card that is renewable every six months I was born in Gambia in the western part of Africa but Mali is my country My father is from Gambia and my mother is from Mali Since i was born in Gambia i was issued with Gambian birth certificate and passport I have gone to Mali just twice with my mother since I was young My mother died about 8 years ago On my pink card they wrote Gambia as the place i was born and Mali as my national country I have Gambian passport and birth certificate but i have nothing from Mali that shows that i am from there However on my AFM they wrote Mali as my country and this is a problem for me because i am using a Gambian passport So what should i do now Can they change the country on my AFM and make it Gambia for me since i have all my documents from Gambia I cant go to Mali again because i don t have any family there All my sisters are in Gambia though my father too is dead Please help me so that i can change the country on my AFM and the Work permit Thank you Kat Reply February 10th 2010 at 22 23 Hi Peter I m not sure how to answer this question because I don t understand why they listed Mali as your country for your AFM and work permit especially since your passport is from Gambia and this is the only passport you ve ever had and have no documents from Mali The only thing you can do is ask the eforia and the dimos office to make the change and see what they demand from you lizzie wrote November 19th 2010 at 01 53 hello Kat Need ur advice can u pls help me I m citizen of Kazakhstan I have 1 year national visa and applied for a residence permit they gave me blue paper but it seems it means that i just applied and waiting for residence permit I want to go to Italy Could i go there without italian visa with greek national visa or with this paper that states that i ve already applied for residence permit Any suggestions I ve tried to communicate with italian embassy and no results thanks very much Kat Reply November 20th 2010 at 01 31 A national visa for Greece is only good for Greece as I explained in Visas for Greece in How Americans and other non EU citizens can get a permit to live work in Greece Therefore you cannot travel to Italy or anywhere else with this visa The bebaiosi blue certificate with photo is not a Greek residence permit With this paper you are allowed to travel to your homeland of Kazakhstan and nowhere else To travel to Italy you need to apply for a Italian visa The Italian embassy is only an authority on issues pertaining to Italy so asking them to answer questions about a Greek bebaiosi and Greek residence permit is not their job Joyce wrote December 3rd 2010 at 00 46 Dear Kat Thank you for all the information you have put into this site They have helped me a lot in dealing with the Greek bureaucracy And I hope you can give me your insight to my situation I am Non EU spouse to a Greek national and am holding the bebaiosi still waiting for the immigration department to issue the permanent permit I am planning for a holiday to Turkey in January which my Singapore passport doesn t require me to take out a visa for the visit You mentioned previously that people with bebaiosi are allowed to travel to their home country only My questions are 1 Since I don t need a visa to travel to Turkey will I have problems when clearing customs in Greece when I return from the trip 2 Will the Greek customs officers stop me from entering because the flight is not from my home country How do they make sure that I do travel to and back to my home country Thank you very much for your help Kat Reply December 4th 2010 at 12 48 Your concern should not be whether you need a visa for Turkey and if you can get back into Greece after you leave Your concern should be whether you are allowed to leave Greece to begin with As the article says anyone without a permit sticker card for Greece and holding only a bebaiosi is allowed to travel to their homeland with special permission granted by the Ministry of Citizen Protection explained in Non EU citizens in Greece with a bebaiosi can travel home until December 2011 Without this special permission non EU citizens in Greece with only a bebaiosi are allowed to go nowhere Therefore it is a privilege to travel home The only way you can travel outside of Greece without regard for a bebaiosi or residence permit is if your original Schengen visa of 90 days granted to Singaporean passport holders is still valid after the date you come back from your Turkey trip How do you know if it s still valid Count 90 days from the day you arrived in Greece Have you used them all If yes you can t leave If no now count 90 days from the date you arrived in Greece until the last day of your planned Turkey trip Have any of those 90 days left If not you can t leave If you ll be back from Turkey before the 90 days of your original Schengen visa expires then go The bebaiosi is the only document allowing you to remain in Greece beyond the 90 day Schengen visa If you do not obey the rules governing the bebaiosi authorities have the right to deny you entry to Greece Being married to a Greek citizen does not grant you the right to break the law How do they know you didn t go to your home country Lots of ways When you check in at the flight desk they ll look at your final destination and your passport and bebaiosi When you go through passport control they look at your passport and air tickets and warn you not to leave If you go by bus or boat they ll look at your passport and tickets and warn you not to leave When you arrive in Turkey a non EU non Schengen country they ll stamp or scan your passport When you come back to Greece they ll look at stamps in your passports or scan your passport and look at the history in the computer to see where you ve been and or ask you for proof in the way of boarding tickets You ll hear stories of people who traveled to other countries and got back into Greece with no problem because authorities were lenient but I know people who were denied entry and had to buy a plane ticket go back to their home country and start over again The choice is yours Ipay wrote December 1st 2011 at 00 38 hi i am a philippine passport holder who entered greece with a national visa type d and has a pending application for a residence permit i am planning on travelling to france and italy but was not thinking about applying for a schengen visa based on the information i read on this link http www1 mfa gr images docs ethnikes theoriseis regulation 265 2010 visa d en pdf however after reading your articles i am now unsure were there any changes in the laws or did i miss anything your feedback will be very much appreciated thanks Kat Reply December 1st 2011 at 06 05 You didn t provide enough information for me to give a customized answer to your specific case I can only tell you what I know and hope something applies to you Pertaining to the link you sent There are two things to remember a What is decided in European Parliament or stated in EU directives is what should happen You ll notice throughout the circular that it says should and shall In reality that s not what necessarily happens Greece for example is notoriously slow in issuing residence permits and runs several years behind mandatory EU directives b Each member state Greece included can write and implement laws that contradict EU directives and this is legal I state this in Non EU citizens in Greece can travel home until December 2012 It has nothing to do with changes in the laws Pertaining to your visa A national type D visa only entitles you to travel between the country that approved it which I assume is Greece and your home country for the specified validity period Only a Schengen visa allows travel in the entire zone Germany Italy France etc and the maximum allowed for any non EU citizen is 90 days in any 180 day period I don t know how long you ve been here but my impression is you don t have permission to travel outside Greece and should contact the French and Italian embassy to apply for a visa Sarah wrote December 27th 2011 at 00 46 Comment 1 Now that I have a one year mulitiple entry visa for Greece why bother to apply for residency It appears that I might not even be able to leave Greece and re enter if I am still waiting for my residency permit when I am scheduled to leave in April It is my intention to maintain residences in both countries and basically travel back and forth Is there a reason that I just can t keep going to the Greek Consulate in the US each year and renew my multiple entry Greek visa Also by reading the last post am I to understand that even though I have a Greek visa for a year and am I US citizen that once I have been in Greece for 90 days I can t go to another EU country because I will have already used up my 90 in 180 Thanks Comment 2 I think I know the answer to my post I need to apply for a residence permit because that is the reason the consulate issued me a one year visa I am lucky that there is an open travel period for non eu citizens until Dec 31 2012 It appears that if travel to another EU country once I have my applicated accepted that I will need a visa and I most probably will not be able to go out of Greece except to the US until I get a permanent sticker Do I get it now Kat Reply December 27th 2011 at 01 56 Whether or not you apply for a visa and residence permit for Greece depends on what you intend to accomplish In How to get a visa and residence permit for Greece the article you read and followed to get the visa it says under Start the visa process outside Greece that there is no need to apply for a residence permit if you do not intend on living staying in Greece Schengen zone for more than 90 days in any 180 day period Since you applied and went through the process in acquiring the special visa with intention to apply for a residence permit it is assumed that you intended to stay in Greece Schengen zone for more than 90 days in any 180 day period Because you did not say what kind of visa you were granted national or Schengen I assume this is a national visa good only for Greece based on what I explain in How non EU citizens can get a permit to live and work in Greece and you were granted this type because again through the act of your application it is assumed that you intended to live in Greece for one year or at least stay more than 90 days in any 180 day period in the Schengen zone It has multiple entries because the Greek embassy consulate knows it takes time for permit stickers to be granted and the visa gives you permission to move between the USA and Greece for one year aside from the government s open travel period until December 31 2012 shy wrote April 12th 2012 at 02 24 hi just wanna ask i come here in greece as a working visa i take my veveosi for one year but its already expired and i dont get my residence permit yet thats why my employer told me that we cannot renew my veveosi or my permit unti my sticker came coz as i read in ur article it must renew 2 months before the expiration of the veveosi but my employer said this is not the system anymore we need to wait first the sticker so just want to ask if this really the system noe coz im confused and one more thing if in case i renewed my veveosi or sticker can i go out to other eschengern country like italy or france or do i need to take a visa just to go out the country hope for ur immediate answer thank u Kat Reply April 13th 2012 at 21 34 Greece is a results may vary country there are rules and there is implementation of rules different things The system didn t change because as of a few days ago I know people who renewed their stay in Greece with the bebaiosi I do not see how your employer could be correct Why a Your bebaiosi is expired b Unless you were waiting for a 5 year or 10 year permit your permit sticker expires the same day as the bebaiosi c Because the bebaiosi is expired and the permit sticker which hasn t been issued is likely also expired you cannot renew anything because renewal implies that there is something valid to extend d Without a unexpired bebaiosi or permit sticker or a renewal application and new bebaiosi you are technically in an illegal status You are free to verify my answer at the nearest municipality office If I am wrong please come back and tell me For your other questions you can see Non EU citizens with a bebaiosi can travel home until end of 2012 Yasya wrote August 21st 2012 at 18 13 Comment 1 first of all thank you for all this extremely helpful info Then i have a question for that nobody can help with I am ukrainian but i have my residential permit and i am married to a Greek citizen Can i travel to Cyprus Or i need to apply for visa in the embassy Comment 2 In case anyone interested i checked with the embassy and they replied that as a non EU citizen but a holder of Greek residence permit you can travle to Cyprus for tourism purpose without a visa As long as you provide the proof that you ll be back such as return ticket and reservation for hotel for the days of your stay Kat Reply August 21st 2012 at 20 59 Answer 1 You didn t provide enough information for me to help you and being married to a Greek is irrelevant as it only matters what passport you hold Ukrainian citizens typically need a visa to visit Cyprus according to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs web page List of countries whose nationals require a visa to visit Cyprus which I found through a simple Google search Cyprus is not in Schengen but it is in the EU so your residence permit sticker card may or may not have any bearing I m not an expert on Cypriot laws and immigration plus it depends on whether you are going to the Greek or Turkish region The quickest way to verify if holding a permit is sufficient to visit without a visa is to contact the Cypriot Embassy in Athens If you have a blue paper with photo you can only travel to your homeland as explained in Non EU citizens in Greece with a bebaiosi may travel home through 2012 and a visa would definitely be required in that case Answer 2 Thank you so much for coming back to report what happened and for sharing that information I learned something and it helps me to help others Have a nice trip Hashim wrote October 9th 2012 at 21 59 I m a non EU citizen who live and work in Greece with adia diamonis My question is Do I have permision to vizit London United Kingdom for Christmas Thanks Kat Reply October 10th 2012 at 00 08 You didn t provide enough information for me to help you Please contact the UK embassy consulate nearest your location which is Albania not Greece to inquire Vijayanta wrote October 18th 2012 at 10 34 Hi I am an Indian possessing permanent resident permit of Greece acquired in September 2009 I came to India in December last week of 2010 and have been in India since then due to family problems I wish to return again in December 2012 Can you advise me if I am entering Greece within time limit to keep my resident permit alive Before coming to India I asked Dimos staff and they said I can stay up to a period of Two years outside Greece Please advise Thanks Kat Reply October 25th 2012 at 10 25 A 10 year permanent resident permit for Greece does entitle you to be outside Greece for up to 2 years without penalty The dimos advised you correctly and you did the right thing to check with them before you left I recommend that you not wait til the last week of December to re enter Greece to avoid any trouble as authorities do count the exact number of days Thank you for your question All best Yulia wrote November 2nd 2012 at 21 47 Hello Here is the situation that I have I am a wife of Greek citizen I ve got 2 children 15 and 4 years old they are Greek citizens My citizenship is Russian My husband owns a travel agency We are organizing international conferences abroad in Shengen Schengen zone At the moment we are working for over than a year on the conference that will take place in Luxembourg at the beginning of December 2012 My problem is that I have made an application for renewal of resident s permit in March and until now I have no document except of this blue certificate with photo We went to Periferia and we was said that my folder wasn t even recorded So it means that nothing was done so far This is the application for 10 years resident s permit We made all necessary actions in order to accelerate the process but was said that in any way my adeia will not be ready earlier that before Xmas There is no way for me to cancel my trip this is our bread We called also to Embassy of Luxembourg they are not so excited and trying to avoid visa issuing for me What is your opinion is there anything else we can do in order for me to travel legally Thank you very much for your attention Kat Reply November 3rd 2012 at 00 38 Family members of Greek EU citizens are supposed to get their permits faster but I have found from real life experience of many people that this is not true In 14 years I ve always waited up to a year to get my permit or after the new one is expired never 60 90 days and only once did I get my permit in 6 months miracles can happen The only solution is to apply for a visa at the Luxembourg embassy which I say above and in Non EU citizens in Greece with a bebaiosi may travel home If you are eligible can supply all supporting documentation and have good reason to temporarily travel there which you do they cannot legally refuse to issue you a visa Many in the EU are worried that non EU citizens are going to jump countries But if your husband is Greek you have a business in Greece and you have family ties here it should be obvious you are established in Greece and are coming back Smile be polite and hope that the embassy gets excited about helping you Thank you for your question Wishing you all the best khan wrote December 26th 2012 at 18 04 Your question was transferred to Long term EU wide residency work permits for Greece job obour wrote December 28th 2012 at 20 57 Comment 1 hello can u help pleased i am from ghana and i came to greece with iligal illegally way to seck a salum seek asylum and i get red card and i here hear the remu that they re coming to give perpars papers on greek pleased if they do so did red card people will amont of them or is it thruth that they coming to geve Comment 2 hi may god bless u forever pls have had the news abut the new perpars they coming to give it to foreners or the opens perpars i hope that u will ans my for me think u Kat Reply December 28th 2012 at 21 04 Asylum seekers and refugees can get free legal help at the Greek Council for Refugees in Athens Click http www gcr gr for more info gloria wrote July 27th 2013 at 00 03 Your question was moved to Long term EU wide residence work permits from Greece Mary wrote September 5th 2013 at 10 32 Hi I am from Seychelles which i dont need a visa to any of the european countries at the moment i am in Sweden with a vevaiosi I ve not been stamped in to Sweden cause i still had a valid permit from Greece when i came Can i still go back to Greece with the vevaiosi Kat Reply September 5th 2013 at 10 58 An answer has already been given at Non EU citizens in Greece with a bebaiosi may travel home through 2013 Please stop posting identical questions comments Thank you and good luck peter wrote October 15th 2013 at 22 03 My name is peter am from kenya i seek for asylum here in Greece i hold a pink card which i renew after every 6 months i dont have a permanent job sometimes i work in a garden two or three days in a week i have a fiance from Germany what do i need so that i can travel to visit her If she approach Germany goverment and allow me to travel can Greek goverment halt me from visiting my fiance for 1 month Kat Reply October 16th 2013 at 08 34 I know very little about the pink card but I m fairly sure it does NOT allow you to travel anywhere The problem isn t whether you can go to Germany it s whether Greece will allow you re entry and void your pink card if you leave I recommend that you ask your question at General Council of Refugees GCR where legal assistance is free Luckyosas wrote November 2nd 2013 at 23 48 Your comment question was moved to How non EU citizens can get a permit to live and work in Greece Lheyo wrote November 25th 2013 at 16 24 I a filipino citizen now working here in Athens as a travel agent Many are asking me about the law if they can travel going to Manila and can they come back here using the blue veveosi until next year 2014 If you have a copy of the law about extension to travel can you please send me It would be a big help for us thank you very much Kat Reply November 25th 2013 at 18 55 The article Non EU citizens in Greece with a bebaiosi may travel home will be updated when if I hear anything from the government I do not notify anyone by email farhan wrote December 1st 2013 at 18 07 I am an international student in athens doing my masters From my home country i got a multiple Type D visa which was valid for 3 months and with the help of my university i applied for the greek residence permit I have the blue paper with the picture which is all in greek but havent recieved the residence card just applied 10 days ago My question is that can i travel to other european countries or to my home country without any problem Regards Kat Reply December 2nd 2013 at 10 31 You didn t provide enough information for me to help you as it depends on your nationality passport type of visa and its validity and residence status I get the feeling you didn t read the article or detailed information at Non EU citizens may travel home with a bebaiosi which is a link offered above They provide more than sufficient info to help you answer your own question BM wrote December 7th 2013 at 18 07 Question 1 I have a vaild resident card as a spouse of a Greek can I travel to EU countries without a passport For instance a week visit to Spain and a week in Italy to see my friends My passport expired and I have to wait a long time for a renewal holidays will be spent in Greece othwrwise Have you personally done it or know anyone who has Thanks 2 Thanks for your reply Sorry I thought I provided enough information I am not an EU citizen but as I have a valid unexpired residence card I know I can visit other EU countries as a tourist without a visa So if I have two tickets to go and return would it be ok I d be travelling with my husband as well Obviously I know that a passport is necessary for international travel and it may be silly of me to assume the EU would be different But since I don t knoe the laws for the EU I wanted to ask you as a non EU resident of Greece with a very informative website if perhaps you knew something that I didn t Kat Reply December 9th 2013 at 14 10 Answer 1 You didn t provide enough information for me to help you so all I can give is general information EU citizens can travel to other EU member states with an unexpired national ID card Everyone else needs a passport My passport is renewed well in advance and I ve never sought an exception Also the airport airline check in desk would never allow you to board without proper travel documents and ID Some airlines even force you to enter relevant and proper ID passport before issuing a ticket Answer 2 Having tickets is not the issue nor is a residence card or being accompanied by your EU husband They provide no exemptions from the law You need a valid unexpired passport Period On a related subject the validity of your residence card is directly linked to your passport When your passport expires you are obliged to immediately report details of the new passport to the office that issued your residence card If you are stopped by police or asked for ID for any reason and cannot produce any authorities may legally detain you until your identity is verified Being married to a Greek or showing a residence card is not enough Janet wrote December 8th 2013 at 00 41 Your question was merged with the other three at Non EU citizens in Greece with a bebaiosi may travel home through 2014 pata wrote January 7th 2014 at 02 28 1 Hello my friend live in greece he got 1 year visa for work and employment or roject can he visit any other EU country 2 At the moment he is in home country he have bangladeshi passport in his passport visa type is work and employment or project its valid dec 2014 Kat Reply January 7th 2014 at 20 04 1 You didn t provide enough information for me to help you It depends on his citizenship passport the type of visa the type of residence permit and any restrictions It s not a simple yes or no 2 Still not enough information There is a bebaiosi and there are dozens of different visas and dozens of different residence work permits each one entitles the holder to different things and there are restrictions He needs to inquire with the allodapon office that issued his papers There s no way I can answer his your question without knowing exactly what he has simone wrote January 25th 2014 at 21 58 I would like to sponsor my brother inlaw and his family who have indian passports and are living in greece with 10yr work permit I would like to invite him to the uk for a family function will they need a visa to enter uk and how long can they stop up to please can you notify me by email many thanks Kat Reply January 27th 2014 at 00 44 You cannot sponsor their visa They need to go to the UK embassy in Greece and apply for a visa They will be denied or accepted based on whether they meet requirements I do not email readers per my policy at Comments Questions and Contacting Me If you require a more personalized reply call the Greek embassy in the UK or the UK embassy in Athens I am a private citizen sefer wrote March 17th 2014 at 19 27 hello i am fro Albania and i have long term residence in greece can i travel to uk thnk Kat Reply March 17th 2014 at 20 32 Depends What passport do you have What type of residence permit do you hold Are there any restrictions Why are you traveling to the UK and for how long You didn t provide enough information for me or anyone to help you Contact the UK embassy emma becky wrote March 25th 2014 at 21 49 All three of your questions comments have been moved to Long term EU wide residency work permits for Greece farhan wrote April 9th 2014 at 00 50 1 Hi i have a temporary residence permit reciept receipt bebasoi which is valid till this year october I am a student in greece my visa has expired and i have applied for the residence permit I haven t yet recieved received it The questions is can i travel to turkey on my temporary residence reciept receipt is it safe 2 in response to the answer if i apply for a turkish visa and get it even then it is not allowed to travel from greece to turkey and back to greece thanks Kat Reply April 9th 2014 at 01 24 1 See Non EU citizens in Greece with a bebaiosi may travel home through 2014 2 There s no way I or anyone can answer that question based on the little information you provided Apply for a visa at the Turkish embassy to learn the answer Mr singh wrote April 12th 2014 at 17 36 Your comment question was moved to Residence work permits for undocumented workers in Greece Mps wrote May 16th 2014 at 16 11 hi is there any way for Asylum seekers and refugees to get help Kat Reply May 16th 2014 at 16 42 In your previous inquiry as Mr Singh I gave you a link to click and it s obvious from your question that you didn t read the article Click the link now However as I said previously the only way your father can become legal is to go back to India and re enter properly with a visa He is not a refugee or asylum seeker marites wrote May 21st 2014 at 16 29 Hi I live and work here in Greece and I m A filipino citizen with my philippine passport and a sticker holder that expires this November 19 2014 I am planning to go to Italy for 2 weeks this August Is this possible for me Kat Reply May 21st 2014 at 21 28 You didn t provide enough information for me to answer your question Please check with Greek authorities that issued your permit and call the Italian embassy consulate to inquire as it says above in section Have a question Klodi wrote June 3rd 2014 at 12 19 I am from Albania and live in greece with my family Last year I met a lady from UK while she was on holiday in Greece She has invited me to visit her to UK but I am not sure if I am aloud allowed to travel to UK as I have Albanian passport with residence permit for family reunication reunification Can I travel with this visa that I have and the passport

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  • Official Translations to Greek
    the info you provided is different than what I have above Further there s no way I can address the specific services of each location since there are dozens around the world and the services they offer vary greatly and may change at any time as locations shut down or cut back due to economic factors This is why I encourage people to inquire In Certify a photocopy or other document in Greece I say that Greek embassies and consulates certify documents Some charge a fee Maria wrote August 1st 2012 at 19 00 Thank you so much for your excellent information The Geek Greek Embassy and Consulate only translate birth and death records I was not able to obtain official certified translation from English to Greek A list was not available Translations from English to other languages only for commercial establishments Clive wrote March 11th 2013 at 10 52 Hi one question about translations is do you know what the Greek government require in terms of translations of English language to Greek Does a translated copy need to have names in both Greek and latin characters or leaving in latin characters would be ok thanks Kat Reply March 12th 2013 at 09 40 As it says in the article above the government accepts certain translations by certain services for certain documents depending on how they re used You gave no specifics so there s way I can answer your questions Many times authorities accept copies of passports and EU EEA national IDs without a translation but this again depends on the transaction Inga wrote December 9th 2013 at 15 33 Hello I want to ask If it is possible to translate from lithuanian Language to greek in your Office Thank you Kat Reply December 11th 2013 at 12 12 I am a private citizen running this information website in my unpaid spare time I do not work for the government Last I checked they do not accommodate Lithuanian However use the contact info provided above to call and confirm Liri wrote February 3rd 2014 at 23 46 I need to have my birth cert non impediment divorce paper and deed poll all uk documents with apostle so does that mean I got 8 documents and where do I get forms to fill out to do these I m based in Rhodes Greece Regards Kat Reply February 4th 2014 at 01 36 See section 1 in Outside Athens asgharraja wrote August 10th 2014 at 17 11 I have apply my documents for epi makron a few days ago please give me internet website for online check of epi makron thanks a lot Kat Reply August 11th 2014 at 12 54 I assume you are inquiring about translations as the article above is about translations The MFA Translation department does not have its own website and checking status online is a very advanced concept for Greece You should have gotten a paper with protocol number and an estimated time of delivery for when your documents will be finished You can check in person and by phone using the protocol number If you are inquiring about residence and work permits see FAQ Greek permits I am a private citizen running Living in Greece in my unpaid spare time and my taxes pay for public offices to help you I do not work for the government Heather wrote August 13th 2014 at 14 24 Your site has been a wonderful help while applying for my resident permit I am nearing the finish line but have unfortunately come upon a substantial stumbling block in the final phase First I should mention that I am a US living approximately 3 5 hours from Athens I read on your site that papers requiring translation may be sent to the MFA Translation Service after a consultation by phone I have called and called and called over a ten day period helpful friends of mine have called and called and called but no one ever answers the phone So I filled out the applications for each page to be translated wrote a nice letter included a copy of my valid 90 day visa which I received from the Greek Consulate in Boston and sent it off figuring it s worth a try Predictably it came back opened but rejected I am hoping to avoid the cost and annoyance of a trip to Athens Do you have any tips or experience to share Many Thanks HW Kat Reply August 13th 2014 at 15 09 Because it is summer and August is considered a vacation month many public offices are operating on minimal staff and may not be answering the phone Public offices have also been known to change phone numbers without notifying the public they serve I updated a few on August 4 and they haven t changed since as far as I know There s no way for me to know which If you have a friend in Athens I recommend completing a Translation Application link in article for each page being translated sign a police dilosi read the relevant section above and follow the link given send them everything and have him her act on your behalf I have no further first hand tips or suggestions beyond the article above except to visit in person I ve always done it this way even when I lived outside the country though I realize it s not the most convenient or cost efficient I ve rarely gotten anything done in Greece by phone mail fax or email in 17 years and depending on other people is not as reliable as doing it yourself Jap wrote November 26th 2014 at 20 15 This is such an interesting and useful site thanks for running this By any chance is it possible to have my birth certificate issued and authenticated by Philippine Foreign Affairs Department but not authenticated by Greek Embassy in the Philippines and Certificate of No Impediment issued by Philippine

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  • AMKA: Greek social security number
    εκστρατεία ενημέρωσης για το ΑΜΚΑ Eleftherotypia Απαραίτητος από την Πέμπτη ο ΑΜΚA Ta Nea Απαραίτητος από σήμερα ο ΑΜΚΑ Eleftherotypia About AMKA Hellenic Social Security Number ekklisiastikos com http bit ly GRAMKA Permalink 19 Comments George wrote June 21st 2013 at 18 18 This site is extremely helpful I receive a Greek pension but was totally unaware of AMKA until my checks stopped coming I am sure that I am not alone in this situation Called the Greek consulate and was informed that they cannot help someone in Greece must do it for me Kat Reply June 22nd 2013 at 08 28 Greece previously didn t require both an AFM and AMKA of everyone receiving a pension until recently even though having an AMKA is mandatory since January 1 2010 The requirement was changed because of new e government services and mass fraud by thousands of families collecting dead relatives pensions You re not alone but you should have received a notification several months ago to provide missing data by an April deadline which was then extended to June Lots of people didn t take it seriously or their contact info wasn t up to date so thousands had their pensions temporarily suspended If you contact your social insurance carrier directly IKA OAEE other they may allow you to sign a dilosi and provide other proof of identity to register Never hurts to ask Thank you for your kind words and sharing your experience Helen wrote June 27th 2013 at 19 24 Your question was moved to IKA offices Marie Helene wrote August 26th 2013 at 17 18 Thank you very much for all the explanations much more detailed than those provided by the Greek Consulate in Paris where I went to enquire for my mother s widow s pension The issue is she perhaps because she is French never received any information about any changes as for this AMKA number which is a relatively new issue in 1997 when my father passed away there was no such thing and my mother who returned to France in 1998 was never notified of any procedure to follow in order to keep her pension coming in even last year when the life certificates had to be accredited by the Greek Consulate I was clearly advised that the Consulate does not provide it and that a lawyer has to be found I think I am coming over to Greece this might prove cheaper Thank you again Kat Reply August 27th 2013 at 11 19 You re welcome any time One reason I started livingingreece gr in 2007 is a decade of frustration and dissatisfaction with incorrect outdated or complete lack of information anywhere in any language Greek gov t websites didn t exist back then and now copy my articles without permission for the English versions as do expat guides It s a pleasure to help people like you and thanks so much for taking the time to share your story and kind words All best Dimitris wrote December 29th 2013 at 09 18 First of all great article Very informative Second I need to provide to a US organization of my insurance ID and insurance policy I am currently under the Greek Social Insurance δημοσίου as my mother works at the Ministry of Finance Υπ Οικονομικών I cannot seem to find that info I suppose AMKA can serve as my insurance ID but what about the insurance policy basically what my insurance covers for example private insurance companies have policies which state that they cover 200 000 worth of surgeries etc Thank you in advance Dimitris Kat Reply December 29th 2013 at 23 34 Since your mother works for the Greek government she should know the answer and easily provide you with documentation plus facilitate any necessary translation from Greek to English Laura wrote February 11th 2014 at 00 01 1 mia madre da aprile 2013 non arriva la pensione dalla Grecia e in Italia ci hanno detto che non sanno il motivo Solo oggi il consolato di Firenze ci ha detto che è necessario l AMKA e se avevo dei parenti in Grecia per richiederlo tramite loro Può mio zio richiedere questo 2 Grazie tanto per la risposta ma per chiamare nessuno ci sa dire il numero di telefono Mia madre già una volta ha scritto loro senza avere risposta e per questo che ha delegato suo fratello che abita a Corfù per andare all ufficio IKA Grazie per l efficienza di questo sito 3 Mi potete dare telefono e mail di IKA di ATENE Grazie 4 Mia madre ha ricevuto AMKA tramite suo fratello in Grecia ora come deve fare per comunicarlo all IKA DI ATENE Grazie 5 mia madre tramite suo fratello si è fatta fare AMKA come lo deve comunicare a IKA DI ATENE la mamma abita in Italia grazie 6 mi potete dare voi il numero di fax di Ika di Atene per inviare AMKA perché il numero su questo sito mi rispondono ma non mi aiutano Grazie 7 Mia madre abita a firenze ha bisogno di fare AFM come posso fare Io non posso andare in Grecia Kat Reply February 11th 2014 at 11 18 1 2 7 No your mother must apply for the AMKA because her identity must be verified This is the reason they stopped her pension payments If unable to appear in person alternative arrangements can be made directly with an IKA office by calling or writing them 3 4 5 6 Click the link in 1 2 for IKA office and find the telephone or fax number There are dozens of offices in Athens Also note that most public sector offices in Greece do not answer emails this is an advanced concept Nella wrote May 3rd 2014 at 08 26 I write you from Bulgaria I receive a Greek pension until 2008 But April last year 2013 was stopped my pension payments I have not an AMKA number So I take

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  • Greek consulates and embassies in the USA
    M F 9 30am 2 00pm Visa Section 10 00am 12 00pm Consulate General New York 69 East 79th Street New York NY 10021 Telephone 212 988 5500 Fax 212 734 8492 Email nycons greekembassy org Web Address http www mfa gr newyork States of Jurisdiction Connecticut New Jersey New York Pennsylvania Hours of Operation M W F 9 00am 2 30pm T Th 9 00am 3 30pm Passports Applications M F 9 00am 12 30 pm Consulate General San Francisco 2441 Gough Street San Francisco CA 94123 Telephone 415 775 2102 Fax 415 776 6815 Email sfgr greekembassy org Web Address http www mfa gr sanfrancisco States of Jurisdiction Alaska California Zip Codes 93000 and up Idaho Montana North Nevada Oregon Utah Washington Wyoming Hours of Operation M F 11 00am 2 00pm Consulate General Tampa 601 Bayshore Blvd Suite 800 Tampa FL 33602 Telephone 813 865 0200 Fax 813 865 0206 Email grgencon tam mfa gr Web Address http www mfa gr tampa States of Jurisdiction Alabama Florida Mississippi Hours of Operation Mo Fr 10 00am 2 00pm By Appointment Only Greek Consulates Worldwide See Greek Consulates Embassies Worldwide Permalink No comments yet Sorry comments are closed at this time Greek News RT PGiannakouris Clouds over the ancient Acropolis hill Ap photo Petros Giannakouris https t co jFy9mSPzNA RT nytimesworld Tales of break ins burglaries and robberies accompany the Greek debt crisis http t co dPVxf6vOb2 http t co diLJm39OQa RT graemewearden Greek parliament approves bailout reform package as it happened http t co qs5iiGi4Ju http t co 64IhO9LCts RT TheEconomist Here is an effort to explain the Greek deal in all its absurdity http t co M5vRLtUHr3 http t co a245q6cV6h Banks open today in Greece but many limitations and capital controls still in place naftemporikigr http t co JgPaqMcgIK RT TheEconomist No means yes Signing a humiliating agreement is just the start for Greece http t co UyDFKUZ6rB http t co G26avOjX3E RT graemewearden Greek crisis Protests in Athens ahead of tonight s bailout vote live Photos Reuters AP http t co qpBFeTSk6F http Follow livingingreece Best of 1 KTEL Buses of Greece 2 Acquiring EU citizenship through ancestry or naturalization 3 Jobs and salaries in Athens Greece 4 Free Greek language lessons 5 Best places to work in Greece 6 Should I move to Greece 7 Taste of America in Greece 8 How to start a business in Greece 9 Athens Greece Cost of living Best of An American in Athens 1 Four songs in Greek that make me cry 2 Why don t you speak Greek fluently 3 Thanks to Greece I ve been reunified with myself 4 More windows on Greek TV than my house 5 Cockroaches and courthouses leases and landlords in Athens 6 Girl of the Greek green clover 7 The nightbird For Americans non EU citizens 1 How Americans non EU citizens can get a permit to live and work in Greece 2 Common jobs for English speaking foreigners in

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  • Deksi xeri, sas parakalo! – Getting a U.S. visa in Greece
    their present or past or there is evidence of a potential risk For example insufficient ties to the homeland that guarantee returning such as a job or family past violation of a visa being a third country resident recent marriage to a U S citizen A previous denial is not necessarily grounds for a repeat denial Related posts Greek passport Greece enters the visa waiver program in 2010 Greek citizens permitted to visit FYROM with Greek ID Article updated April 13 2010 Permalink 6 Comments Cheryl wrote May 24th 2007 at 00 38 You hit the nail on the head The same thing happens with a visit to the Consulate my husband has everything prepared and it usually goes smoothly unless they forget to have him fill out another form then he gets mad My MIL usually bickers and haggles with everyone and I usually just stand by quietly and smile The last time I was visiting she really gave it to a fruit vendor so I intervened politely and told him that I didn t need so many peaches To my surprise he smiled gently and said Kala koukla and gave me what I wanted before sneering at MIL as he left I know that he appreciated the fact that I spoke to him with respect Later I asked her why she verbally attacked him with no cause and she said because he was going to screw us After a long discussion and I mean long she finally realized that she was assuming he was going to add more peaches to the bunch and really had no basis to assume that it was actually going to happen It is conditioning and it can t be changed but with patience and laughter it can be tolerated Stavros wrote May 24th 2007 at 05 25 Sounds like the US Embassy has made some strides in terms of customer service since I was there Back in those days its Greek American employees were not only rude but suffered from the malady common to most petty bureaucrats an inflated view of their own importance Twenty years ago when I was negotiating the labyrinth of immigration officialdom to get my Greek bride her visa citizenship I was subjected to red tape unlike anything I ever experienced during my twenty two years in the Marine Corps INS officials are generally lazy rude arrogant incompetent loudmouth bores who couldn t make it as postal clerks After going round and round with them for over a year after they lost my wife s paperwork I sent a letter to my Congressman Within three days Anna was in a Federal Courthouse taking the oath of citizenship If I had it to do all over again I think I would have carried her on my back across the Arizona desert BTW I wish I had the information in this blog when I lived in Greece Nice work Kat wrote May 24th 2007 at 10 08 Cheryl I found it ridiculous that people complained when they were the ones who didn t follow instructions which were written in their language Why swear at people who are helping you In my everyday life I see people get upset over the smallest thing things I see as pleasant like a bird chirping And I m thinking wait you re complaining about a bird chirping but your neighbor using a buzzsaw in his workshop all day from 7 a m doesn t bother you Someone has their priorities mixed up But as much as people complain there s a lot of apathy on matters of importance which they explain as well what can I do Fair enough I suppose but if you re going to take it at least don t bend over Stavro My story is about getting a non immigrant visa so it s about a few visa officials here at the American Embassy in Athens It s not about the INS or what it takes to immigrate to America though I might have a story about that in the future if I ever bring my future husband through that process We could compare my red tape stories over 10 years with the Greek public sector losing my papers 6 of 10 times assessing me more than 1 800 euros in one day in which complaining to a ministry official got me nothing bah The five couples I know who went through INS in the past 10 years all told me it was a very straightforward process moved quickly The website detailing the process and offering online forms also appears quite straightforward for those who have things in order Perhaps they ve improved things over the years With regards to the Greek American Embassy officials in Athens I ve met some of the inflated self important and rude people you mentioned while interviewing for jobs so you re right about that not everyone is like that but there are a few It made me not want to work there The good thing is they rotate out after 4 years And thank you for the compliment You offer a very unique view and I d love your input on other things too Stavros wrote May 24th 2007 at 18 29 Sorry for straying off topic Bureaucracies are the same all over the world My interactions with Greek public sector employees have been less than pleasant akin to a root canal Glad to hear that INS is doing better but I remain skeptical Nevertheless I hope your experience is smooth and trouble free Kala stefania As for input I am really good at input however I don t do as well at getting things done Ask my wife Anna Stay well Thomas wrote May 27th 2007 at 14 24 Have you ever thought of this The reason civil servants are so rude is because they ve had to deal with mindless twits like this I don t know if it is but it

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  • 10 Tips for flying with Olympic Airlines
    attention Good article as always Dimitris wrote October 22nd 2008 at 18 13 I prefer to fly Aegean whenever I can BUT I keep using Olympic for my domestic flights in Greece because it now cheaper and generally provides more legspace Kat wrote October 22nd 2008 at 21 03 L Glad I could provide a little comic relief We all need a little to assuage our states of irritation M I think the fact Aegean was privately owned then became a publicly held company has something to do with standards and practices Their work has paid off also profits are up C That reminds me of my friend Paul who was given a food voucher but it could only be used at certain places and they were all closed Great eh Btw I ve had 3 days of no electricity in the past 14 days and I don t think our cuts have anything to do with strikes It s just Greece A Funny you should mention this I hear these types of comments from readers and friends all the time My only exposure was to the one in NYC and I decided to get what I needed done another way The MP3 story you told reminds me of an ex coworker When we got a new Apple for the office it wasn t given to me the most experienced and prolific user it went to the girl who whined the loudest so I had to train her how to use it And the only question she asked over and over was How do I load my Greek music to iTunes P In my defense I do say Not always but most of the time Further not all yiayias exhibit Zenlike behavior though I agree they are treated differently than say a young immigrant woman such as myself Being polite is always what I try first but in my 11 years of doing bureaucracy and being the recipient of poor service it has not worked once In fact many refuse to wait on me or are immediately rude to me without me saying a word If I empathize with their plight I m dismissed as not knowing anything because I m not Greek If I take a Greek male with me they only speak with him I m invisible but at least things get done It really depends Here s the story about the tourist who tried being polite but then had to resort to other methods Passenger waits as OA lounges Pa Thanks for dropping in today M Yes what a terrible passenger you are for breaking the seat LOL That s a classic story changing your return flight because you couldn t take it anymore Please keep sharing these stories with us they re great C Oh yes and if the people who are together can t sit together for whatever reason never mind about changing seats They just yell to each other from wherever they are so everyone can hear them R I m glad you got out and I m glad those drugs helped cushion the blow of the journey I ve heard you say never again but then you booked again so I think it just comes down to fewer options The S You have some of the funniest stories As I read about guys on the tarmac I got this visual of them being tackled by police if they d tried it at JFK And regarding your overall experience female FAs on OA are typically nicer to men this is why I pray for a male steward because I m otherwise ignored D Hello and thanks for making a comment today I can understand that I m sure it depends on destination availability and timing thundera wrote October 22nd 2008 at 22 04 I think i might be the only person that till now had no problems flying with olympic What i can tell is that you just opened a big door to a discussion that cannot be done from here some months ago my friend sofia returned from paris with OA and her luggage was destroyed OA gave her a new luggage right away in the airport When we returned from spain with Vueling my luggage was also destroyed ad i can tell you that we went through a lot more with Vueling than OA You know the story Anyway One last thing The risk of danger on airlines is being counted every ten years by the number of the accident the airline had OA has Zero accidents Has really great pillots and the best Engineers I know by fact that engineers from around the globe come to observe learn from the greek OA engineers A wrote October 23rd 2008 at 16 15 The only reason I could imagine someone coming to learn from OA is because OA s planes are antiques compared to the rest of the fleets flying transcontinentally The Scorpion wrote October 23rd 2008 at 18 46 Thundera said OA has Zero accidents Has really great pillots and the best Engineers I know by fact that engineers from around the globe come to observe learn from the greek OA engineers Ha ha very funny I m sure she was just kidding Although the pilots might be top rate if they trained in the USA the mechanics I m a bit skeptical since we know in Greece in general maintenance is shoddy in most things that are owned by the government Look at any Dimarxeio and then imagine seeing duct tape on a wing as I saw in the late 1980s Souvlaki and tzadziki Yes Greeks are great Aircraft maintenance OXI NO WAY Plus you can t compare the limited number of flights OA does to a major carrier like Delta or others FMS wrote October 23rd 2008 at 19 44 My experiences of Olympic are mixed and certainly I agree that some other airlines Alitalia especially are worse The principal difficulties I have experienced are 1 when tickets are pre paid from abroad for me usually Switzerland they refuse to issue the ticket because the exchange rate is not right On the penultimate occasion that occurred I offered to pay the different and was told that 12 cents had been overpaid so they could not issue the ticket The last time it occurred I screamed abuse and threatened to go to the Managing Director of Olympic about this shit These little incidents make something that should take 15 minutes actually take 2 4 hours 2 Whenever there is a small problem they make it into a disaster I cannot reveal the details but one instance concerns a colleague of Greek ethnicity who did not have a certain visa they showed no flexibility at all and for various reasons this was just stupid 3 They cancel flights as often as possible making it inadvisable to fly OA unless you really don t want to make the trip 4 Their local routes to Turkey Italy etc are disgustingly overpriced because they are duopoly routes Nobody seems to worry though On the other hand usually the food has been quite good in recent years while the quality has collapsed in Economy class for all other European airlines It is not haute cuisine it is true Also the flight times are usually better than other airlines probably because Olympic bagged all the best slots to stop competition Kev wrote October 25th 2008 at 05 53 I think the trap with most Greeks and non Greeks is that they falsely assume that Greece is one of the boys a European family member on par with the likes of Belgium Germany France etc when in reality it is more like stan type of country e g Kazakhstan Or at least somewhere in between Indeed many Greeks themselves often make the joke of Athinaistan Elladistan or Ellada City As a result of the first comparison it is constantly being compared to the big boys and comes up short last in every category But if you just assume that Greece IS a stan or functions like a stan and compare it to other stans you will be pleasantly surprised Then it s actually quite a developed country Kat wrote October 25th 2008 at 14 58 T I would encourage making a comparison after flying internationally with a known carrier Vueling is a troubled low cost airline and it s a bit unfair to compare them with Olympic With regards to luggage my ex boss lost his luggage and had another damaged and it was only until two of us helped him complain for 30 days that he got modest compensation from OA for one bag and nothing for the other As with everything in GR results do vary Regarding OA s safety record what you say is true about the last decade they had their last fatality in 1998 But OA only has 36 planes down from 42 and a total of six fatal accidents so I m not sure that s anything to brag about since larger or comparable airlines boast a better record e g American Airlines has nearly 700 planes and 13 accidents that were fatal State owned Alitalia has 173 planes and hasn t had an accident since 1991 or fatality since 1990 and Aer Lingus of Ireland has 41 planes and had a hijacking in 1981 but hasn t had a fatality since 1968 Plus OA has had several groundings due to technical problems in the last year alone OA crew overlooked airplane problems Sept 2008 OA lacking planes and cash August 2008 Five OA flights grounded due to technical problems June 2008 Singer Kostas Makedonas injured after OA helicopter develops mechanical fault April 2008 OA flight safely grounded November 20 2007 OA grounds four unsafe planes blames others November 17 2007 Most people who tout OA pilots and engineers as the best are Greek My friend Adoni was hired to be an OA engineer because he was trained and schooled in the USA and 80 percent all of my friends who are pilots were trained in the USA as well Their input follows below I know nothing about OA pilots engineers or their training program but am skeptical about the best claim Why OA pilots don t fly as many routes or as often and how could they with only 36 planes in the fleet Plus planes tend to bounce on the runway on landing and won t land depart in the slightest abnormal weather conditions fog rain ice on wings tarmac wind snow while American pilots keep going in all kinds of weather we landed in JFK in hurricane conditions and ply longer routes as do Swiss French German British and Swedish pilots My pilot friends MK CB KS and AW say that generally there is no superior flight school flight ops or superior airline although many will stake that claim i e France UK Germany are the most common However it really comes down to excellence of the individual instructor and talent of an individual pilot engineer All of them are different nationalities and work for different airlines but all have trained in the USA Australia and somewhere in the EU none in Greece Australia has the best safety record overall Asian airlines have trouble with safety due to cultural issues i e Not disclosing the flight is about to hit a mountain because of shame etc while airlines in other countries may want to raise the standard but simply don t have the budget A My research shows that it s possible as OA leases discarded outdated propeller planes from other airlines The S Take it easy there I don t need this turning into an inflammatory debate My post was meant to be both practical and comical X I agree with you about Alitalia and food on OA has improved slightly over the years although maybe that s because the standard was quite low and it could only go up from there haha OA was indeed fined by the EU for violating competition rules and ordered to pay millions which only worsens their financial troubles K LOL Oh dear Note from Kat To anyone thinking of attacking Kev again for being American he is Greek FMS wrote October 25th 2008 at 15 54 Kev is this really a Greek name you know that the Turks still call Greece by the old name of Yunanistan I am personally appalled by that but perhaps they see Greece in a longer historical perspective than most Europeans do graffic wrote October 25th 2008 at 19 18 I can say that I suffered a bit of those statements but with different airlines In fact after flying with many different airlines I m always ready for the worst I don t care if it s Alitalia Iberia Olympic Aegean I ve learned that you can always have a problem The worst situation I suffered was with a low cost Spanish company I cannot talk about it because in order to get part of my money I had to sign some kind of Non Disclosure Agreement and throw all my rights to the trash bin So kalo taksidi to all of you And I guess the next post should be Things you need to know before you flight deedee wrote October 25th 2008 at 21 58 Off topic Why ten Reading Forbes I see Americans are in love with 10 things of anything Do you know why you re using 10 or is just genetics Kat Reply October 25th 2008 at 01 04 Hi again Lenos Ioannis Jeremy None of your comments are on topic There isn t a pattern as I ve also used four five seven and 12 Do you know why you re obsessed with hating me and the USA or is it just genetics FMS wrote October 26th 2008 at 21 09 Off topic reply we often use 10 also in the decimal system because most of us have 10 fingers How many do you have deedee Tauros wrote October 26th 2008 at 22 13 I flew OA frequently in the early 90 s domestic and within Europe and never had any real issues with them Around 1996 however things seemed to detoriate in my personal experience I soon swore them off but like Kat was lured back by a travel agent who informed that due to my needing to fly on specific dates less than a week out I could fly JFK ATH JFK in Business class on OA for only 100 more than coach with US other EU airlines for my dates Which I did My baggage arrived the day after I did which as a very frequent flyer on numerous airlines was nothing new for me But besides being extremely unimpressed with OA Business class one incident has always stuck out in mind from that trip We were 2 3 hours out of Athens and the sun was shining through the window shades I awoke and toke a stroll deciding to visit the upper deck of the 747 which was Business class just as was the portion of the lower deck that I was in At the top of the stairs was an attendant we exchanged good mornings and I started to go back into the upper deck cabin She stopped me and asked where I was going to which I replied that I just wanted to see what the upper deck seating looked like She told me I couldn t because the bright light from the area she was in might wake them up So I turned and saw that the cockpit door was open and said How about in there Of course she said Which I did chatting with the pilots for a while before returning to my seat Although a few years before 9 11 this insight into OA s priorities combined with what I heard from people who had reason to know the truth about their maintenance as well as the experiences of numerous friends acquaintances caused me to successfully avoid OA all but once since Overall I think Kat s points are right on and 8 with Kev s addition are useful for all matters pertaining to GR However Kat s 10 is most relevant regarding OA Adventure is one thing paying to be aggravated and jeopardized at the same time is another Barbayiannis wrote October 27th 2008 at 19 34 Behind all the justified complaints lies a more serious problem Olympic Airlines is one of the great fundamental failures of Greece Greece has everything in place to have one of the great national airlines of the world a guaranteed domestic market of far flung islands and regions a guaranteed huge domestic and international tourist market a geographic position ideally suited to being a hub for southern Europe and for Europe Mideast Africa flight routes a supply of well trained pilots and mechanics from veterans of relatively large Greek air force and a traditional of commercial entrepreneurship All this together means that Greece has the opportunity to establish one of the best airlines in the world the Greek national airline should be the European Singapore Airlines Instead it s a laughing stock A wrote October 29th 2008 at 16 00 And it would work except for the national airlines part When you take the labor force and nationalize it you kill the goose that lays golden eggs By not forcing the airline to be competitive and actually pay for itself you have killed the forces that will cause it to excel In the 1970s the traffic on Olympic was primarily a tourist crowd But when the other international airlines like BA and TWA and even PanAm improved their services and expanded their flight range Olympic stood by and did nothing even losing customers even though Olympic always had the best landing times at

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  • Strikes in Greece - Living in Greece
    Group stage a variety of strikes that range from street protests occupations and port blockades All strikes are posted in Greek on their website www pamehellas gr Federation of Hellenic Civil Aviation OSYPA When Ομοσπονδία Συλλόγων Υπηρεσίας Πολιτικής Αεροπορίας ΟΣΥΠΑ decides to strike only domestic airports and flights within Greece may be affected depending on participation by the individual and location International flights to from Athens and Thessaloniki go ahead if air traffic controllers EEEKE are not on strike Announcements are made in Greek via the Greek media and on the OSYPA website www osypa gr Ferries and ships There are 14 separate unions representing nautical operations and it only takes one dissenter to cause disruptions in ferry or port services When a court rules a strike illegal or if ferry companies and port workers state their intention to provide services union members are still capable of blocking access to the dock or preventing passengers from embarking disembarking The majority of announcements come via the Greek media in Greek Most disruptions are caused by the Πανελλήνιας Ναυτικής Ομοσπονδίας ΠΝΟ or Pan Hellenic Maritime Federation PNO which occasionally publishes press releases at www pno gr GENOP DEH KHE Γενική Ομοσπονδία Εργαζομένων ΔΕΗ Κλάδου Ηλεκτρικής Ενέργειας ΓΕΝΟΠ ΔΕΗ ΚΗΕ or the General Confederation of Electric Power Workers is a union representing employees of power company DEH PPC in Greece Strikes take the form of rolling half hour or one hour blackouts and are announced in Greek on websites www dei gr or www genop gr GSEE The private sector union Γενική Συνομοσπονδία Εργατών Ελλάδας ΓΣΕΕ or General Confederation of Greek Labor GSEE represents approximately 2 million employees in Greece though not all workers are members and strikes are not decided by referendum With businesses on the brink of bankruptcy privately owned businesses and companies remain open normal hours on strike days simply because they are fighting for survival and want to welcome customers Employees also have no reason to lose wages and their jobs All strikes are announced in Greek by Greek media and the union s website www gsee gr Hospitals State run public hospitals and clinics can be impacted by a number of separate unions that include ambulance drivers and emergency care workers doctors medical employees nurses and hospital staff The largest is Πανελλήνια Ομοσπονδία Εργαζομένων Δημοσίων Νοσοκομείων ΠΟΕΔΗΝ POEDIN at www poedhn gr KTEL long distance buses are privately owned and rarely affected by strikes even when the Ομοσπονδίας Συνδικάτων Μεταφορών Ελλάδας ΟΣΜΕ announces them Owners who constitute 90 percent of KTEL s work force opt out and continue to run routes The union s website can be found at www osme org gr Journalists Journalists working as part of the Ελληνικών Μέσων Μαζικής Επικοινωνίας MME or Greek mass information media must strike when board members call a blackout even if they disagree since they do not have voting rights Foreign press continue to disseminate news Most strikes begin at 6 00 and last 24 hours though they can end sooner if a compelling event occurs i e On May 5 2010 journalists broke their strike when three innocents died when Marfin Bank was firebombed by hooded youth Announcements are in Greek via a Greek media b Πανελλήνια Ομοσπονδία Ενώσεων Συντακτών POESY or the Panhellenic Federation of Journalists Union at www poesy gr or c Ενώσεως Συντακτών Ημερησίων Εφημερίδων Αθηνών ΕΣΗΕΑ or Journalists Union of Athens Daily Newspapers at www esiea gr Lawyers DSE Δικηγορικών Συλλόγων Ελλάδος ΔΣΕ or the Bar Association of Greece decides whether lawyers nationwide will strike but any of 63 individual prefectures can vote differently When lawyers are on strike court cases must be delayed and rescheduled Announcements are made by Greek media Olympic Air Olympic Air has its hub in Athens and has no choice but to cancel or alter flight schedules if air traffic controllers EEEKE and or the local aviation union OSYPA decide to strike Press releases are first published in Greek then English less than 24 hours before a strike via their website www olympicair com They cannot make announcements earlier because it does not make sense to cancel or reschedule flights then reinstate them if a strike does not go forward which has happened Pharmacists The του Πανελληνίου Φαρμακευτικού Συλλόγου Π Φ Σ or Panhellenic Pharmacy Association PFS announces nationwide strikes at its website www pfs gr or blog There are several local associations that can decide on separate action including those in Athens and Piraeus Taxi cabs Taxi cabs are impacted by 24 hour strikes that normally begin at 5 00 with announcements made by owners via Greek media If public transport goes on strike taxi companies are known to decline appointments unless you re a regular customer and standing on the street and or sharing a cab will be necessary Customers can report bad behavior by writing down the license plate number then calling the tourist police at 171 The taxi complaint hotline was shut down due to budget cuts There are several individual taxi associations with the largest in Athens and in Thessaloniki The Athens division SATA posts announcements at www satataxi gr The national Pan Hellenic Federation of Taxi Drivers and Owners or Πανελλήνια Ομοσπονδία Επαγγελματιών Ιδιοκτητών Αυτοκινητιστών Ταξί και Αγοραίων ΠΟΕΙΑΤΑ sometimes posts strike information and announcements on its website www poeiata gr Teachers Professors Determining what schools and universities are on strike is difficult as some classes within the same institution on the same day may go forward while others will not and parents rarely get advance notice or are only informed after dropping off children and must go back to pick them up Announcements are published in Greek by Greek media and occasionally by unions a Ομοσπονδία Λειτουργών Μέσης Εκπαίδευσης ΟΛΜΕ or Federation of Secondary Education Teachers OLME at www olme gr and b Διδασκαλική Ομοσπονδία Ελλάδας ΔΟΕ or Teachers Federation of Greece at www doe gr Thessaloniki transportation OASTH Οργανισμός Αστικών Συγκοινωνιών Θεσσαλονίκης ΟΑΣΘ or Thessaloniki Urban Transport Authority oversees city and

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